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3 -4 -GO! 3 -4 -GO! Thank you, Kiel! Thank you, Kiel! She actually thinks she works for God there in the county courthouse when she actually works for Caesar. She has a right to have her faith accommodated, her convictions accommodate it. This is an attempt to create a drama under this banner of religious freedom, but what it's really about is an attempt to subvert the law and to undermine civil rights. Hey, where people tell true stories, they never thought they'd dare to share. Welcome to this way out the International LGBT Radio Magazine. I'm Greg Gordon. There's no law in homophobic assaults in the Ukraine. A Kentucky clerk rebels against court -ordered equality and a reality podcaster captures humor and payphones. Those stories and more this week, because you've discovered this way out.

I'm Michelle Marie Gulkison. And I'm Wenzel Jones. With News Wrap, a summary of some of the news in or affecting LGBT communities around the world for the week ending September 5, 2015. Homophobic thugs attacked two more Ukrainian LGBT venues this week. According to gay Alliance Ukraine, six masked neo -nazis stormed into the offices of queer home crew boss in the city of Krivy Ri, on August 30, throwing smoke bombs and flares into the building and trapping seven staff members inside. They beat one man who tried to stop the attack so mercilessly that he needed immediate hospitalization with what some sources were calling severe life threatening injuries. The other staff members were treated for smoke inhalation. There was a similar assault the previous day on a cafe in the same city, where LGBT activists were hosting a small party. Some 20 masked attackers wearing right -wing regalia forced their way into the cafe and beat up several attendees. Two weeks ago, masked thugs hurled smoke bombs into a venue in Odessa, where LGBT

activists were discussing the last -minute ban of a pride march. And six police officers were hurt when extremists tried to stop an LGBT pride parade in Kiev in June. No one has been arrested in any of the recent attacks on LGBT people. Activists claimed that police generally refused to detain suspects who haven't already fled by the time officers arrived. One of the main functions of the state is to protect its citizens, said a media statement from gay Alliance Ukraine, which demanded that government officials do everything in their power to protect the lives, health and basic rights of the citizens of Ukraine. Nine gay men were arrested this week in the Burmese city of Mandalay, even though they hadn't committed any crime. According to a reporting gay star news, Mint Q, the regional minister of Border and Security Affairs, announced a crackdown on LGBT people and an increased police presence of the city's moat, which the news outlet describes as an oasis for the LGBTI community. Q reportedly said that the nine men were detained after an informant claimed that they were acting inappropriately. He said the men were educated

and then released on bond when it was determined that they hadn't broken any law. Graham Reid of Human Rights Watch condemned the detentions in a media release, saying that the Burmese federal government's failure to step in could open the door to more abuse of the sort described by this minister. This is not the first time LGBTI people have been under attack in Burma, also known as Myanmar. Playing close police officers arrested 10 gay men and transgender women in July 2013 and, according to activists, abused them in detention. Private consensual adult gay sex remains illegal in the Southeast Asian country under a British colonial era crimes against nature law. Offenders can be punished with up to life in prison. In other news, queer statistics highlighted reports from four countries this week. An online survey of more than 1 ,000 self -identified gay and bisexual male teenagers in Japan found more than 40 % saying that they've been bullied because of their sexual orientation. 20 % reported truancy

or self -inflicted injuries as a way of coping. The poll was conducted by a research team, led by Yasuharu Hidekha, a professor of social medicine at Takaratsuka University, between August and December last year. And was part of a health ministry research project. Investigators also found that 30 % of the respondents said they'd been taught that being a sexual minority was abnormal, a 7 % increase from responses to a similar question in a 2005 survey. It is difficult for children who are sexual minorities to signal in SOS, Hidekha told the Asahi Shimbum newspaper, because they are unsure who they can trust enough to talk to. Faculty members should regularly send out positive messages about sexual minorities, he said, to produce an atmosphere that would make it easier for the children to talk to someone about the issue. Another new survey has found nearly a third of young Israelis don't identify as 100 % heterosexual. The Mako website and panels institute asked 600 secular Jews living in Israel to plot themselves on the Kinsey scale, where zero is exclusively heterosexual and sits as

exclusively homosexual. 85 % of the respondents placed themselves at the completely straight extreme of the scale, while 4 % put themselves at the exclusively gay end. Of the young Israeli men aged 18 to 24 who participated in the survey, 67 % identified as straight, 3 % said they're gay, and the remaining 30 % put themselves somewhere on the bisexual spectrum. The survey was conducted in late August and has a margin of error of 4%. Recent youth polls in both the UK and the US produce similar results. One in two young adults in the UK and one in three in the US also don't identify as 100 % straight. Those surveys were also conducted in late August and also have a margin of error of 4%. Not surprisingly, the youth of research has noted that, the older someone is, the less likely they are to say that they have fluid sexual attractions. 24 % of people aged 30 to 44 say that there's somewhere on the scale of

bisexuality compared to 8 % or less of over 45s. But the biggest news in the US this week was the continuing drama over marriage licenses in Rowan County, Kentucky. After being turned down by the Supreme Court for an extension of a lower appeals court order, County clerk Kim Davis went to jail on September 3rd rather than allow her signature to be on the marriage certificates of lesbian or gay couples. A self described born again Christian, Davis claims that it's her right under the US Constitution to not be forced to act against her religious beliefs. But US district judge David Bunning ruled that as an elected public official bound to serve every citizen, Davis was violating her oath of office by refusing to issue marriage licenses to same gender couples. She claims to be obeying God's authority, but critics mock David's piety noting that she's on her 4th marriage. Hundreds of equality advocates chanted, love one, love one, as word reached dueling but peaceful crowds outside the courthouse. The judge also ordered all five of Davis's deputies, including her son Nathan,

to issue licenses to all applicants while their boss is held in contempt or also face jail if they refuse to comply. A lawyer for Davis, whose defense is funded by the Liberty Council, a right -wing religious rights group, argued that the deputy clerks cannot issue licenses against Davis's authority, but the judge disagreed. And by Friday, September 4th, the first same gender couples were getting marriage licenses in Rowan County, Kentucky. Davis's son Nathan, however, was the not unexpected holdout. We'll have much more on this story later in the program on most of these same stations. Elsewhere, Russian authorities abruptly canceled Moscow premiere. The country's major LGBT film festival, just a few days before the 13th annual edition was scheduled to kick off. A letter from the city's Culture Committee this week blamed budget constraints, but said that funding would be diverted to a more conventional youth festival of life -affirming film. The cancellation comes two years after a so -called no -promo -homo law was enacted by the Putin government, which bans the ill -defined promotion of homosexuality to minors. Moscow premiere was to have included a

week of free screenings of films not given wide release in the country, such as Russia 88, a mockumentary about neo -Nazis, and Winter Journey, a gay -themed debut feature. The shutdown of Moscow premiere is being seen as part of a wider crackdown on LGBT rights in Russia. The Putin government last week announced plans to entirely block Wikipedia, expanding its efforts to censor anything that could be LGBT supportive on the internet. Authorities shut down the country's major online support group for LGBT or questioning youth, Children 404 in April. But finally, a love story centered on a gay male couple has become the first such movie to get approval from regulators in China following a year of deliberation and nail -biting by the filmmakers. Seek McCartney, directed by Wang Chao, is a French -Chinese co -production, and stars Chinese pop star Han Yang and award -winning French actor Jeremy Al -Qaim. It's expected to hit theaters later this year. There is no film rating system in China, so all films are expected to be suitable for audiences of all ages. China's media watchdog removed

homosexuality from its list of pornographic and vulgar content in 2010. Nevertheless, broke back Mountain was banned, as have virtually all other films with gay content, although many are available on video streaming sites. And while it's not a specifically gay -themed film, the dead end, which features a passionate kiss between two male characters, also passed the Chinese censors earlier this year. On his blog, Wang called the approval of Seek McCartney, a small step for the regulator, and a big step for filmmakers. That's NewsRap for the Weekending September 5, 2015, produced by Steve Pride, written by Greg Gordon, and recorded at the studios of KPFK Los Angeles. Follow the news in your area and around the world, and informed community is a strong community. NewsRap from This Way Out is brought to you by Yu. Help keep us on the air and in your ears at ThisWayOut .org, where you can also read the text of this newscast. For This Way Out, I'm Michelle Marie Wilkeson, and I'm Wenzel Jones. Something inappropriate may this way come later in the program.

Go into the chapel and we're gonna get mad. We are job, we are job, we are job, we are job, we are job. An equality -resistant county clerk in Kentucky is getting her 15 minutes of fame. Here's This Way Out, Solution Chappelle. Growing county Kentucky clerk Kim Davis is in the headlines, and in jail, after refusing a district court order to issue civil marriage licenses to lesbian and gay couples. The professed born again Christian claims that God's authority supersedes the U .S. Supreme Court's June marriage equality ruling. Davis says that defying the ruling was a choice between heaven and hell. Pacific Radio News anchor Mark Miracle covered the September 3rd events. A defiant county clerk went to jail today for refusing to issue marriage licenses to gay couples. But five or deputies agreed to issue the licenses themselves, potentially ending the church state standoff in row in

county Kentucky. I just want you all to know that we are not issuing marriage licenses to gay couples. Why? What appeal is left? Ending the appeal in the sick market. What appeal in the sick is being denied. Right, the induction is the order that you're supposed to issue marriage licenses. The Supreme Court denies your say. We are not issuing marriage licenses today. Based on what? Why are you not issuing marriage licenses today? Because I'm not. Why? His authority. And the God's authority. U .S. District Judge David Bunning said he had no choice but to jailed Kim Davis for contempt. After she insisted that her conscience will not allow her to follow federal court rulings on gay marriage, God's moral law conflicts with my job duties. Davis told the judge before she was taken away by a U .S. marshal. You can't be separated from something that's in your heart and in your soul. Judge Bunning offered to release Davis if she would promise not to

interfere with her employees issuing marriage licenses. But Davis threw her attorneys rejected that offer and chose to stay in jail. Gay and lesbian couples vowed to appear the row in county clerk's office for the fifth time tomorrow to see if the deputy clerks would keep their promises. As word of Davis's jailing spread outside the federal court house, hundreds of people chanted and screamed, love wins, love wins, while Davis's supporters booed. Hey, hey. Move out. Kim Davis is not to go. Hey. Move out. Kim Davis is not to go. Thank you, Jill. Thank you, Jill. Thank you, Jill. Thank you, Jill. The wages of sin is death. That is spiritual death. On you homosexuals are separated from God by your sin. You're spiritually dead at your sins and trespasses. Davis's lawyer said it was the first time in history an American citizen has been jailed for believing that marriage is a

union between one man and one woman. He compared her willingness to accept imprisonment to what Martin Luther King Jr. did to advance civil rights. Davis is represented by the Liberty Council, which advocates in court for religious freedom. The issue was that from the time she began marriage has always been one thing and it's been between a man and a woman. Matt Staver. Two months ago that changed and so the job duties changed. The fact of the matter is that she has a right to have her faith accommodated, her convictions accommodated. Supreme Court has never said that your right requires someone to actually participate in your particular conviction or your belief or your activity. Before she was let away, Davis said the U .S. Supreme Court ruling legalizing same -sex marriage nationwide, complex with a vows that she made when she became a born again Christian. That report by Pacific Radio's Mark Miracle. While Davis sat in jail, all her deputies began issuing civil marriage licenses to gay and lesbian couples on September 4th. All that is except

her own son, Nathan. The judge is apparently not penalizing him for his non -compliance. On his radio show this week, the Family Research Council's Brian Fisher compared Davis to World War II Nazi resistors and U .S. abolitionists. Think about Dred Scott 1857. They said the Negro has no rights that the white man is bound to respect. Fugitive slave law, you find a fugitive slave in a free state. You got to capture him, you got to apprehend him, you got to take him to custody, and you got to send him back home to his slave master. What would we think if you had a lower court judge a magistrate in, let's say, in Wisconsin that said, you know, I'm not going to sign that warrant. You want me to sign a warrant to go kidnap or capture a fugitive slave and return his slavery? I'm not going to do it. Even though the Supreme Court says that that Negro has no rights. I think we would regard that guy today as a hero, and that's how I look at Kim Davis. Evan Wolfson of the victoriously

retiring advocacy group Freedom to Mary would bet to differ with Brian Fisher's analysis as Wolfson told MSNBC. This is not a question of religious freedom. She has religious freedom. No one's telling her what to believe, what to think, what to do, but she took an oath to do a job. In fact, she draws an $80 ,000 a year taxpayer salary to do a job. If she doesn't feel she can do the job, consistent with her conscience, she is free to resign. She has been given an order by a federal judge. She tested that order all the way up to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court upheld what this judge instructed her to do. The judge brought her back into court to give her a chance to comply with the law. She deliberately chose to defy that law and indeed tried to interfere with her deputies performing on it. This is an attempt to create a drama under this banner of religious freedom. But what it's really about is an attempt to subvert the law and to flout civil rights and undermine civil rights. And it's completely intolerable, particularly in a government employee. Rubble rousing activist

and writer Dan Savage emphasized on MSNBC that Kim Davis is a public servant. Kim Davis, as John Corvino wrote today in the Detroit Free Press, I think he said it best, is being asked to administer the law, which is her job. She's not being asked to perform a sacrament. She is tasked with ascertaining that the people in front of her, the couple standing in front of her, have a legal right to get married and to provide them with that license. She is not a minister. She actually thinks she works for God there in the county courthouse when she actually works for Caesar. Savage is not alone in his skepticism about Davis's zeal for martyrdom. I actually think Kim Davis does wish to be a martyr. And I think Kim Davis is waiting to cash in. And I predicted from the beginning that she would defy all the courters, defy all the Supreme Court, she would ultimately be held in contempt of court, lose her job, perhaps go to prison for a short amount of time. And then she will have written for her ghost written book, she will go on the right wing lecture circuit and she'll never have to do an honest day's work ever again in her life. This is about someone hypocritically cashing in. And she is a hypocrite.

She said today, and I'm going to read it so I want to make sure I get it right. I never imagined a day like this would come where I would be asked to violate a central teaching of scripture and of Jesus himself regarding marriage. This is a woman who has been divorced three times and married four times. And I'm going to read this too. She gave birth to twins five months after divorcing her first husband. They were fathered by her third husband, but adopted by her second husband. She's now on to her fourth husband. Jesus Christ himself in scripture condemns divorce, calls it adultery, and forbids it. Jesus Christ himself in scripture says, not one word about same -sex marriage. We live in a pluralistic, multicultural, multi -faith, multi -denominational within faiths society. And it would be utter chaos if everyone was empowered to cite God's authority to violate the law or break the law. The chaos and savage envisions may be coming. Since North Carolina enacted a law allowing state magistrates to decline to perform weddings more than 30 have done so. Similar exemptions in other states could be on the

horizon. And MSNBC's Rachel Maddo noticed another disturbing trend. This one Kentucky clerk is the one who's getting all this attention for this fight right now. I think it's also very important to note that she may not be alone by our best figuring today. There appear to be clerks who have said they will basically take this same stance as this clerk in Rowan County in 14 counties in Alabama. Also two more counties in Kentucky besides the one where the clerk is now in jail, plus one county in Texas. If that figuring is correct, that means we're looking at 17 more potential cases like the one unfolding today in Kentucky where the clerk has ended up in jail. We do know how this ends ultimately. This ends with marriage equality everywhere. We have known it would end that way since the United States Supreme Court ruled on this issue and settled this as a matter of law this summer. But what is the prospect of these jailed anti gay want to be murders? What is the prospect of not just one of them, but more than a dozen of them due

to the politics of this issue? That was MSNBC's Rachel Maddo. Lawyers for Kim Davis filed a notice of appeal on September 6th, challenging the contempt ruling that centered a jail. She vows to remain behind bars, saying she gets comfort from reading her Bible. Meanwhile, up to 500 supporters prayed and protested on September 5th outside the Kentucky jail where Davis is being held. But denied marriage license applicant David Moore told Democracy Now he thinks that support is soft. If she would issue marriage licenses today to everyone, those people who are coming out to say we stand with Kim Davis, they would not be protesting. They would not be protesting people just going and getting their license. She is basically sending like a rallying signal that she's a victim and she's not a victim. So really it's just this false signal, oh, come and help me. So all these people show up. But really she doesn't need any help because her rights haven't been changed or taken away in any way whatsoever. Kim Davis and her supporters are waiting for the U .S. Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati,

Ohio to rule on her request to set aside Judge Bunning's original ruling in the case. However, the appeals court said that she had little chance of winning when it initially denied her request for a stay which was upheld by the Supreme Court. For this way out, I'm Lucia Chappelle. Hi, I'm Daryl Stevens, Noah in the Noah's Ark movie and TV series. And you've discovered this way out, the International Radio Show, for all our sexually diverse communities and those who love them. Hey, this is Kevin Allyson of the live show and audio podcast, Risk, where people tell true stories they never thought they dared to share. So we say that nothing is inappropriate until maybe something is. Despite the risk involved, this way out correspondent Dixie Trichle sat down for an interview without comic and storyteller

Kevin Allyson when his podcast was on tour in Minneapolis. She asked him how he got started. I was in a sketch comedy group called the state on MTV in the early 90s. We did sketch comedy along the lines of Saturday Night Live or Monty Python. I was the only gay member. I was out of the closet actually when I was 24 years old in 1994. After the state broke up in 96, I spent about 12 years doing crazy kooky characters on stage and was kind of getting nowhere with my solo career. And people kept saying to me, oh, well, why don't you, you know, get up on stage and just tell your own true stories, just be yourself. And I would say, oh, but I'm so hot. I mean, I'm a mix of things that don't seem to go together in a way that Hollywood might understand. I'm too gay and yet too friendly at Midwestern and polite

and yet too kind of kinky and raunchy sometimes and yet kind of too serious and spiritual at other times. So it seems like a strange combination. I said it seems too risky. Were you inspired by particular comedians? For me, I developed a sort of defense mechanism when I was in kindergarten in the first grade. I thought, oh, I'm so afraid of people finding out that I like boys. That why don't I try to be funny? That way people will know I'm quote unquote weird, but it's okay. I kind of obsessed over this idea of coming out how to do that. And that's why I've created risk. It was my friend, Michaelian Black, who said to me, if it seems risky to be yourself, be yourself because things that feel risky are often, you know, you're opening up in such a way that the audience will open up to you. So I created a podcast called risk where people tell true stories they

never thought they dared to share in public. People are completely uncensored. They can come out about anything. So some of the stories are hilarious and some of them are absolutely shocking, horrifying or really profoundly beautiful. It's all over the emotional map. Where do the people come from that are on your show risk? Well, originally because I had my start in comedy, I just asked a lot of comedians. So we had people originally on like Margaret Show or Jeanine Garofalo or Mark Marin, Lisa Lampinelli, people like that. And what eventually happened was that some of the sharing on this show became so profound and really started having a cathartic effect on the people listening to the podcast that people started writing into me. And they would write in things like, I was really struggling with a heroin addiction and I'd like to talk about that. Or

I was molested when I was a child or sometimes they'd write in with something that was just absolutely ridiculous that happened to them. It's just hilarious to talk about. It was the audience of the show that picked up on, oh, here's what this can continue to be, anyone sharing. You know, in my later years, I came out as other things. I came out as being, for example, like kinky or someone who is non -monogamous. And I know a lot of friends who have come out as being trans when they originally came out as just being gay. To me, it's interesting that life itself is a process of coming out. You're a comedian, I know, but you sound more like a storyteller. Someone who loves to hear people's stories and tell stories. In the, I would say six years now that I've been doing risk, I've pretty much only been doing storytelling. To me, what's so interesting is I feel like we're always wearing

a mask of some sorts. You know, even when we do break down the wall a little bit, take off a mask, we might feel like, well, I'm still wearing a little bit of another mask. It's kind of like the dance of the seven bails. We eventually take a little bit more off and a little bit more off. And it's kind of finding out more and more of who we are. I remember seeing the times of Harvey Milk when I was a little kid and him emphasizing, it's so important for more and more and more of us to come out to our families, to our friends, because when they just hear that the people that they love and the people that they know have these stories that they've been living through, there's something that's very healing and bringing people back to a holistic way that we used to communicate with each other in storytelling. Podcasts or Kevin Allyson was interviewed by Dixie Trichle. You can check him out at risk -show .com.

Thanks for choosing this way out the International LGBT Radio Magazine. This week, Michelle Marie Dukeson, Wenzel Jones, Lucid Chappelle and Dixie Trichle contributed program material with thanks as always to Steve Pride. Thanks also this week to Mark Merrill and Pacifica Radio News. John Williams performed some of the music you heard and Kim Wilson composed the performed right theme music. This way, I'll thanks the Kicking Assets Fund of the Tides Foundation, the Yvonne Foundation, the estate of Christopher David Trenton, are contributing affiliate stations and you are listener supporters for making this program possible. Email TWOradio at aol .com or write to us at PO Box 1065 Los Angeles, California, 90078, USA. For associate producers, Lucid Chappelle and everyone who's this way out, I'm Greg Gordon. Thanks for listening online at

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